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A few weeks ago at Watkins Glen, when Ryan Blaney was knocked out of the race without the opportunity for his team to check his car, it seemed that NASCAR’s damaged vehicle policy had a flaw.

In a world of three-race rounds in the playoffs, a team should get to see if it can fix a car in the seven minutes permitted by the rules.

That rule is good. As much as many people loved the mystique of mechanics thrashing on cars so they could get back in a race 10-15 minutes later and potentially getting a point if others wrecked, it seemed to be a lot of work with dangerous implications. The car could still lose parts and pieces on the track. It subjected crew members to minor burns and cuts from working on and underneath the car.

Of all the things teams complain about, the seven minutes to fix the car is not one of them. It kept cars that were potentially compromised from a safety aspect off the track, firesuits from being ruined and the costs of bringing additional parts and pieces to the track.

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The teams just want the seven minutes to try to do something. Under NASCAR’s previous interpretation of its policy, it wouldn’t tow a car that had damage from a wreck to the pit box so a team could see if it could fix the car. The driver’s race was over.

It seemed so wrong at the time when it came to Blaney.

Blaney was mad about it at Watkins Glen (albeit his car likely was damaged beyond repair). Then Josh Berry was mad about it at Kansas (where his car wasn’t damaged beyond repair). Berry’s ouster would have generated more buzz and outrage if he was in the playoffs.

And then came Talladega. And it was a doozy.

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A 28-car pileup resulted in NASCAR towing cars — including playoff cars — to pit road with damage. 

The move certainly raised eyebrows. Everything that was understood about the interpretation of the rule was thrown out the window. It went from an unfair rule that was understandable to confusion. Who was getting towed? What determined who would be towed?

NASCAR Senior VP Elton Sawyer said the rule isn’t designed to keep good race cars out of the race and in the instance of Berry at Kansas, they “probably could have made a different call there.”

The change in that view was never communicated to teams until by NASCAR’s actions with four laps to go at Talladega. That was a better interpretation of the rule, but that shouldn’t have been a surprise.

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And as Kevin Harvick pointed out on his “Kevin Harvick’s Happy Hour” podcast this week, it does need to be a coordinated effort with an idea of how cars would be scored after being towed if they can’t get the car fixed or meet minimum speed.

The most important thing moving forward is communication on how this will be managed over the final five races of the season. Sure it would be nice to let things evolve in a “we’ll know it when we see it” fashion, but there is no time for that. In three-race rounds to determine a champion, there has to be a more defined process.

The playoffs are designed to create chaos and all the competitors know that, even if they don’t like it. But from an integrity and fairness lens, that chaos can’t bleed into confusion on whether a wrecked car or driver can continue or is knocked out of a race. 

Bob Pockrass covers NASCAR for FOX Sports. He has spent decades covering motorsports, including over 30 Daytona 500s, with stints at ESPN, Sporting News, NASCAR Scene magazine and The (Daytona Beach) News-Journal. Follow him on Twitter @bobpockrass.

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Brodie Kostecki has stunned the Supercars paddock with a dazzling Shootout lap to take pole position for Sunday’s Bathurst 1000.

The reigning Supercars Champion put a troubled season on the back burner to set the fastest qualifying lap of the weekend, his Erebus Motorsport Chevrolet Camaro lapping the 6.2km track in 2m05.5119s.

“I wasn’t sure I was going to get it, it was not my best lap around here all weekend,” said Kostecki, who will share his car with Todd Hazelwood.

“I had a bad tyre vibration, I was starting to get double vision at one point. I wasn’t feeling very well yesterday and I actually watched the [earlier] co-drivers’ session from the house.”

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Cameron Waters looked to have Kostecki’s measure when he was the second-last man out but the Tickford Racing Ford looked to lose a little speed in the third and final sector, and will line up second in the car he will share with James Moffat.

“I really wanted that but Brodie’s lap was awesome,” said Waters. “We are in the mix and the front row is pretty good. I have been focusing pretty hard on the race car and it feels good.”

Broc Feeney, who missed out on provisional pole position in Friday’s qualifying session because of a late red flag, finished the session in third place, sharing the Triple Eight Chevrolet with Jamie Whincup.

Richie Stanaway delivered a brilliant  performance to seal fourth. As the first man out in the single-lap session the 32-year-old New Zealander set a benchmark time of 2m05.9286s in his Ford before returning to the Grove Racing garage to watch as the next five drivers tried but failed to match his time.

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Stanaway, who does not have a confirmed Supercars seat for 2025, had a wild moment at the first corner but stormed over the rest of the first sector.

After setting the fastest time in Friday qualifying Stanaway’s team-mate Matt Payne dropped to seventh in the shootout after touching the wall at the exit of Forrest’s Elbow.

Points leader Will Brown will start from fifth on the grid for Triple Eight ahead of Erebus’ Jack Le Brocq, whose Chevrolet touched the wall on the way up the hill.

Anton De Pasquale gave the hard-working Dick Johnson Racing Ford team some comfort with the eighth fastest time, while Chaz Mostert will be right behind him in the Walkinshaw Andretti United Ford.

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Tenth place went to Andre Heimgartner who, in his first-ever Bathurst shootout, ran wide at the first corner, losing about eight seconds. He will share the Brad Jones Racing Chevrolet with Declan Fraser.

The Supercars will return to the hallowed Bathurst track at 8:15am, Australian Eastern Daylight Savings time, before the start of the 161-lap classic, set for 11:30am.

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Red Bull’s RB21 will be an ‘evolution’, team explains wind tunnel limitations

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Red Bull is planning an evolution of its current RB20 car for 2025, believing that investing in a bold revamp is not worth it.

With the Milton Keynes-based squad locked in a tight championship fight with McLaren, it is mindful that, if it does not make solid gains this winter, it could risk an even more difficult campaign next year.

However, a combination of cost cap limits, plus the need to ramp up efforts for the new rules revolution coming in 2026 when Red Bull will run its own engine, has prompted it to step away from doing anything radical.

Speaking about how the squad was dealing with the different requirements of now, next year and 2026, team boss Christian Horner said: “In this business, you’re always juggling and you’ve got to put one foot in front of the other.

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“You can’t project too far into the future. Long term in F1 is about two and a half months and, basically, what we learn this year is relevant to next year.

“So next year’s car will be an evolution of this year’s car. I mean, there’s many components of last year’s car that have been carried over into this year, because with the way the cost cap works, unless there’s significant performance upgrade, it doesn’t make sense [to change].”

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Red Bull’s decision to not overstretch itself with car changes for next year comes as it ramps up to run its first F1 engine from the start of 2026.

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It has invested heavily in its new Red Bull Powertrains division, which it is convinced will bring it gains despite the huge costs.

“It is by far our biggest challenge,” added Horner. “We’ve created a start-up business, aggressively recruited 600 people into it, built a factory, put in the process and brought a group of people together to work within a Red Bull culture that has been so successful on the chassis side.

“Of course, many have come from other teams, competitors and suppliers in F1, and that’s a massive undertaking to get 600 people and all your processes, your supply chain, everything geared up to deliver for two teams in ’26.

“We also have the benefit of a great partner in Ford Motor Company and that relationship is working very well. But inevitably there will be short-term pain, but there is a long-term gain of having everything under one roof with engineers.

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“We’ve already seen the benefit and the difference of having chassis and engine engineers sitting essentially next to each other as we start to integrate the ‘26 engine into the ‘26 car.”

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As Red Bull has dug deep into the factors that have hurt the progress of its current RB20, problems with wind tunnel correlation have been exposed.

It comes with the team still operating from the same Bedford facility that it has used since it entered F1 in 2005.

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While work has begun on a new state-of-the-art facility at its Milton Keynes factory, that is unlikely to be up and running before 2026.

Horner insisted that Red Bull was always mindful that, while it has upgraded Bedford over the years, it is not as technically advanced as more modern facilities.

“We’ve always known the limitations of the tunnel,” he said. “But I think as we’ve really started to push the aerodynamics of these cars now and you’re into really fine margins, then the limitations show themselves up.”

He added that committing to invest in its new wind tunnel was only possible once it became clear that the idea of outlawing teams from using such facilities had been abandoned.

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“There was a point in time that wind tunnels could have been banned,” he said.

“There was a discussion about whether that was going to be the case, and whether CFD would overtake it or not.

“Adrian [Newey] held off pushing for a new tunnel until there was clarity on that. But it got to a point where Aston Martin wanted a new tunnel and the FIA changed their stance.

“So it was a question of: ‘Look, we have to do this, and we have to do this now, because the regulations dictate that, within a cost cap, the tunnel that we’re running is grossly inefficient.’”

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Asked what the challenges Red Bull faced with its Bedford tunnel were, Horner said:“We’ve got a facility that is a 60-year-old wind tunnel. It is a relic of the Cold War.

“It’s been good enough to produce some fantastic cars for us over the years. But it has its limitations.

“So anything under five degrees [centigrade], we can’t run it. Anything over 25 degrees, it becomes pretty unstable.”

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