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1. 

   @packerfan10

   November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

   The only thing I could think of for that CUP issue might be a bios update or a bent pin on the CPU or something.

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2. 

   @DanielFSmith

   November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

   Check the speed on that SATA CD-ROM link. It may only be 1.5Gbps… and not enough for editing dual raw 4KUHD streams.

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   @toto99303

   November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

   Your SP SSD is the worst possible, I had the same one and it has very bad controller and low r/w speeds. That's why you have slowdowns when editing. Try nVME on the PCIE slots and you will be amazed.

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   @Obi1kenobi10

   November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

   You can get a drive caddy that replaces the cd drive. I have one in my R620 and R720. I install everything trough USB or a USB CD drive.

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5. 

   @Bus2000

   November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

   This servers perform a lot better using VM software like Proxmox.

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6. 

   @demorez5

   November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

   you know you don't need to connect a monitor or keyboard to the server to install windows, right? also, the fact that you are gaming on the server apparently directly (e.g. with a monitor and keyboard connected) makes this video kinda pointless

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   @dj_paultuk7052

   November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

   Well thats different !. Im a DC engineer in a DC with 1,100 R720's running Linux in a compute cluster. We dont have an issue with performance, but then again we have 26,400 cores 🙂

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8. 

   @reinekewf7987

   November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

   why a r720? and not a r730? they cost only 300€ to 600€ as base to mid ter model. also dual cpus are sometimes complicated about compatibility and NUMA thread management. therefore i would try a singe cpu 2U height server witch should work better and has similar performance. also in some bios versions having problems with gpus or be more exactly using the video output. that is because the aspeed management controller is technically the main gpu and also can read parallel the frame buffer for ipmi video streaming. so if you use a normal gpu as main gpu you have either the output deactivated and reroute the video stream over the pcie back and in the aspeed ipmi (idrac) or you use the ability to use idrac completely. as i said some bios versions have gpu support deactivated. this means if a gpu is in the pcie it would be ignored and its adress and parameters would not passed to the os, also you cant force or probe this by the os. the r630 and the r730 are basically the same mainboard but the bios is different. on the r730 gpus are allowed as long they dont use the video output as primary or dont have any output at all. for render purpose this is fine yo even can theoretically use up to 64 cpus in a bridge less xfire or sli. so no real time simultaneous single frame rendering rather then parallel multiple frame rendering. on the r630 the bios does not allow gpus at all for two reasons. first is the 35w pcie power limit per slot and second is heat the system is not able to work properly with higher head dissipation in this small form factor, the idrac and the nic would suffer the most from this extra heat. this does not mean there would be no gpu that fits inside with 35w with a pass through cooler. there are cpu that would technically work nit the bios says no. even the r630 and r730 are the same. as i said the r630 is only 1U and the r730 is 2U.
   both are virtualization server so under normal working condition a gpu is not needed except you use remote desktop for your clients wich is inefficient as hell. normally your clients using the server as a working space but gpu things are done on client side if possible. i have a r630 with e5 2683v4 and 512gb ram this system was used as such server i mentioned and could provide up to 128 clients at once if set up as bare minimum. this means 2 to 4 threads per client and 8gb ram as dynamic shared resources. for normal office things this would be fine and plenty of power. all gpu related things are done at the client side. most of those systems had a tiny 10w apus in it with a small cpu like a intel atom and relative good performing gpu. on this system runs more or less windows or a linux but without a live client part this gets loaded by login. this needs some time, i mean depending on your account settings and data table and connection speed 20sek to 2min.
   i know many of you would say 128 clients are impossible but i can tell you, you could do more then this but this could bother other members on the same machine 40 to 64 is the sweet spot this would be around 50% to 80% utilization and you still have 1 10gbit uplink free for heavy stuff like external recources, NAS, Internet, downloads and streams. also i would recommend using 8 threads per client shared but socket fixed and 8gb ram fixed address range. this has the best performance. 32 to 50 clients are now optimum.
   for private propose this does most likely dont matter. i use mine as my server for everything. it is running game servers, tools, services, nas, ai tools like stable diffusion and a llm. my r630 system running on ubuntu 22.04 lts and ideling most of the time around 3% to 5% only the ai tools using the full system power. i dont have a gpu in it so yea it is slower but both of the cpus has a combined fp64 of 23TOPS, fp32 44TOPS, fp16 83TOPS, so yea even only cpu bound i am fast as 9 gtx1660 in fp32 and fp16 and it gets to fp64 the gtx gets even worse because it can handle only 150 GOPS at fp64. yea the whole system uses about 600W at full power but still more efficient as 9 gtx 1660. in order to get use of the full power for ai workload i use 6 sas 12gbit 512gb SSD drives in raid10 and 2 sata hdd with 5tb als long therm storage in raid 1. my system is able to feed the system with 6gb/s to 7gb/s. i know a nvme would be smarter but cooling those is the problem if placed in a pcie carrier. there is no space for a cooler and buying a proper x8 or x16 a pcie3.0 nvme card is way to expensive with a price tag of 600€ and above for only 256gb. also i use cheap used sas ssd they kost me only 30€ for 512gb yea they might be dead quickly but i dont be worried about that sins i use raid 10 and i have bought 20 and only using 6 of them. my system runs now for 1,5 years and no drive fail sins.

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9. 

   @glubrix

   November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

   In my opinion you just wasted your time, just look at the CPU specs to understand that it would have been poor, especially in games

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10. 

    @tomaszmilos

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    hmm…. When I see that cpu wird bechaviors when you testing that I intrested wats hepend will be if Install proxmox on that server and VM with Windows 10/11 eith passtru GPU to that vm – I maan that tests will be beter when o this test that way?

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11. 

    @andresbravo2003

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    Oh god, I should’ve expected that.

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12. 

    @lukedavis436

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    I was thinking of gaming on a server when one came in at work its the R720XD version instead, quite a noisy old beast but man you should've seen the sheer joy on my face when i started it up

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    @Ilkanar

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    6:09 v2's could have some extra instructions, so when you install windows with v2's and then go back to v1 cpu it might cause the problems trying to use instructions that are not on older cpu.

    *CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG*

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14. 

    @hieyeque1

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    Those dell servers have power management settings in the BIOS which can override what the OS wants to do. Your throttling was because of that.

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    @tranquillitydysfunction8142

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    It does show how badly games are coded if you want to take advantage of multithreading. But I believe that's much harder to code for.
    I use my R720xd running Debian 12 Linux, just because a Windows 10 update broke the server.

    Anyway, It runs multiple apps on Casaos, including my Media Server, and a container I found that keep it running quietly unless truly stressed. I've only managed this with testing.
    The rest of the software either runs natively or via VirtualBox (Windows Server 2019 + Windows 10). I've yet to get it above 50% @52⁰C, it sits at 8-25%.

    My processors are only 60W V2 CPUs with 10 cores each using 80GB (set as interleaved) RAM. Can't remember the number & too lazy to check (only one option I think)

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16. 

    @Im_The_Slep

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    Just got an R720 for free a week or two ago, this video’s pretty helpful! Thanks!

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17. 

    @MaxTheDog167

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    Definitely a learning experience. I feel bad because I knew you probably did things out of order mistakenly with changing the video output before installing windows and then installing windows on the CPUs and not the old ones.
    Servers and even regular pcs are picky like that!

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    @corgiverse9550

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    I've thought about this. We can find these for like $100 all the time. Imagine adding a GPU, somehow powering it, some USB cards, and some storage. Ugh.

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    @rongray8934

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    Nice channel you have. I hope you keep at it for a bit and give it a chance. I picked up a R710 with dual X5690 @ 3.47GHz and now I have to see what I can do with it.

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20. 

    @NerdTouchingGrass

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    despite CPUs coming with multiple cores for over a decade now most games still will only use 1 core and xeons are not known for single thread performance

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    @freddobrowski2974

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    Id put that ssd in the front right under the cd player there is room there as well as power and a sata conection

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    @freddobrowski2974

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    YOU CAN UPGRADE THE R720 A LOT GET THE 8 CORES 16 THREADS CPUS THAT BOOST PAST 3GHZ THEY ARE VERY POWERFULL AND PRETTY FAST FOR THEIR AGE

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23. 

    @smiths7317

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    Find a CPU with less cores and you will see massive improvement.

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24. 

    @artanvaroshi

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    had exactly the same experience
    you end up looking at the boot or installation screens for a very loooong time
    buy and use a server only if you have specific ideas related to servers only
    it is not fun to deal with them

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    @HobkinBoi

    November 13, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    Part of the problem boils down to sharing resources between cpu sockets. Linux does handle this better I think.

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