The woman told police that on the night Ms McNally was murdered, she and her partner had spend the evening together in his flat and that he fell asleep watching the World Cup Final on TV
A witness in the Natalie McNally murder trial told a jury today that her and her former partner “did not sit down and plan out any sort of alibi.”
The woman, who can’t be named due to a reporting restriction, spend a second day giving evidence at Belfast Crown Court.
The jury of six men and six women have already heard that the man charged with murdering 32-year old Ms McNally has denied it was him and has instead pointed the finger of blame at a former boyfriend of hers.
Ms McNally was 15 weeks pregnant when she was beaten, stabbed and strangled in her Silverwood Green home in Lurgan on the evening of Sunday December 18, 2022.
The father of her unborn child, 36-year old Stephen McCullagh from Woodland Gardens in Lisburn, has been accused of and has denied her murder.
Ms McNally’s ex-partner gave evidence at the trial earlier this week and flatly rejected suggestions he was involved in her murder.
Also called to give evidence was his now ex-girlfriend who was living with him in his flat in December 2022.
She spend a second day being cross-examined by defence barrister John Kearney KC who asked her about statements she made to the PSNI.
The woman told police that on the night Ms McNally was murdered, she and her partner had spend the evening together in his flat and that he fell asleep watching the World Cup Final on TV. She also told police she went to bed and that he followed her into the bedroom at some point later.
Asked why she didn’t tell the police about watching a Harry Potter film after the football or getting up in the middle of the night to go to the toilet in a statement made on December 20, 2022, she replied: “I really didn’t go into that much detail because I didn’t understand what was going on.
“I didn’t even know someone was dead at this point.”
Mr Kearney also questioned the woman about a second statement she made to police two days later and “differences” in the two.
The witness said the second statement to police was made “in the middle of the night” and just after her partner had been arrested on suspicion on murdering Ms McNally.
She said she was “not in a good state at this point” and her memory “wasn’t great.”
Asked if she and her partner had discussed the Sunday evening and had “sat down and compared notes” prior to his arrest, she replied: “No.
“I knew he had not done this, so in my brain I did not think there was any chance of him coming and getting arrested. He asked me ‘do you think they are accusing me of doing this?’ and I said ‘no, don’t be ridiculous, you didn’t do this, there’s no chance of you getting arrested’ so I was very much in shock when he was arrested.
“There was no talk of what went on that night between us. I did not think he was going to get arrested. We did not sit there and plan out any sort of alibi.”
The witness also confirmed she told police she had deleted Ms McNally’s number from her partner’s home.
Asked why she had done this, the witness said “I didn’t want him talking to other women.”
She said she was initially told Ms McNally was a “platonic friend who he had lived with in the past, like a flatmate-type situation” but that over time she felt “there was a bit more to the relationship than he originally told me.”
The witness also confirmed that on the evening of Sunday December 18, 2022, while her boyfriend slept on the sofa she checked his phone and found “a very small amount” of messages between him and Ms McNally.
She said she never saw any messages between the two “of a sexual nature” but felt there was more to their relationship than she had been told.
The witness was then shown a document which detailed a series of messages between her now-ex partner and Ms McNally which were exchanged on December 18, 2022 and were retained on Ms McNally’s phone.
Asked by Mr Kearney if those were the messages she saw, the witness said her partner deleted messages “so I may not have seen all of this.”
Mr Kearney then asked her to read through the messages and at this point the clearly upset witness said “I don’t remember reading all of these and I don’t really want to read these.”
After the defence barrister continued referencing messages in the document, Mr Justice Kinney intervened and said: “Mr Kearney, this witness has made it clear that she finds these messages distressing.”
She was then asked if she was “sitting beside him” when he was messaging Ms McNally that Sunday and she said: “I saw him texting someone turned away from me and that’s why I ended up going through his phone.”
At that point, the witness said “can we not talking about these text messages” then asked if she could set down the document.
The witness was also asked about a statement she made to police on March 1 this year claiming her partner had been abusive during their relationship.
She refused to answer any of these questions on the grounds she could incriminate herself but did say “I feel current events have nothing to do with things that happened three years ago.”
At hearing.
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