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Carl Hartley & Rob Moore On Starting Cars & Money & Expose Their Differences!
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In this episode, we sit down with Carl Hartley and Rob Moore for one of the rawest and most brutally honest conversations we’ve ever had.
From building billion-view podcasts and becoming Europe’s biggest supercar dealer, to childhood trauma, pressure, loyalty, Andrew Tate, business, success, failure and the truth about money — this episode goes DEEP.
Rob opens up about being bullied growing up, his father’s public breakdown and the moment that completely changed his life forever. Carl reveals what it was really like being thrown into business as a child, learning from his father and brother, and why success “lasts for one second.”
The guys also discuss the reality of running businesses at the highest level, why nobody is truly loyal, dealing with pressure, interviewing controversial guests like Andrew Tate, the Bonnie Blue situation, F1 media training, competitors, trust, masculinity, and the mindset required to win.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Trailer
1:07 Carl and Rob introductions
2:14 How they first met
3:33 Launching Cars and Money
4:40 Carl on podcast time
6:10 Why Rob started podcasting
7:40 Their chemistry and audience
9:01 Cars and Money concept
10:29 Frustration with guarded guests
11:01 Rob’s childhood and self-image
14:36 Success without self-acceptance
18:25 Finding direction and motivation
20:36 Dad’s breakdown changed everything
23:14 Thinking versus taking action
24:13 Carl on hiring people
27:47 Learning from each other
28:03 Carl on dad and brother
29:30 Growing up inside business
30:50 Letting mistakes teach lessons
31:19 Rob’s business journey
31:42 Building a property portfolio
33:10 Training, books, and speaking
34:30 Why Carl stays focused
36:15 Competition and business ethics
36:55 Competing with his brother
38:39 Being your own competitor
40:45 Respect for other dealers
43:39 Ethical customer relationships
44:38 Mentors, fathers, and influence
45:10 Rob learns from everyone
46:03 Mark Homer’s long-term thinking
47:19 Stories about Rob’s father
49:08 Constraints and controversial interviews
49:32 Managing boards and restraint
50:50 Andrew Tate and Bonnie Blue
55:38 Interviewing Andrew Tate
57:24 Ending Disruptors, new focus
58:58 Guests, trust, and loyalty
1:01:13 Loyalty follows the money
1:05:13 Adapting through lockdown
1:06:41 UK property and investing philosophy
1:07:04 Why UK property works
1:08:41 No interest investing abroad
1:10:31 Local knowledge wins deals
1:11:14 Carl’s house-buying approach
1:13:35 Cars versus property investing
1:14:24 Why property never suited Carl
1:14:56 Cars as investment assets
1:16:06 Future hypercar predictions
1:17:54 Car storage frustrations
1:18:44 Crash stories and podcast origins
1:19:17 Rob’s Ferrari 458 crash
1:21:34 Carl’s humbling car moment
1:22:22 How Road to Success started
1:25:05 Landing Jay Leno
1:28:39 Podcast lessons and public perception
1:28:44 Guest prep versus reality
1:30:11 Overcoming privilege perceptions
1:31:29 Comments and improving interviews
1:34:28 Criticism of their questions
1:36:11 Unreleased episodes and guest choices
1:37:34 When episodes get shelved
1:39:40 Guests they would avoid
1:43:14 Mark Bailey surprise success
1:45:08 Guest choices affect access
1:46:40 Ethics, edits, and sponsors
1:48:07 Letting guests veto episodes
1:49:48 Avoiding risky sponsors
1:51:17 Clickbait, algorithms, and style
1:53:12 Titles versus brand reputation
1:54:35 Getting blood from stone
1:55:52 Carl now enjoys podcasting
1:56:56 Friendly competition and collaboration
1:57:35 Ben’s reaction to launch
1:59:47 Competition improved his show
2:00:37 Working with other dealers
2:02:24 Closing thoughts & outro
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