Ghosts’ Asher Grodman Told Me Why Trevor Had ‘No Right’ To Do What He Did After Learning About His Daughter, And I 100% Agree

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Trevor found out about a massive life update, and then made a giant mistake over it in the 2025 TV schedule’s newest episode of Ghosts. After learning he was the biological father of Pinkus’ (the man he gave his pants to) daughter, Abby, Trevor decided to text his old friend from Sam’s phone to urge him to reveal this information to his kid. However, he accidentally sent it to Abby instead. It was a massive mess-up on his end, so I asked Asher Grodman about his character’s less-than-ideal choice this episode. In response, he told me why his character had “no right” to do something like this.

While this whole situation involving Trevor using Sam’s phone to accidentally text Abby was awkward, Grodman loved it. He adored getting to see his pantless character be in the wrong and a bit more vulnerable, telling me during an interview for CinemaBlend:

What I loved particularly about it was that Trevor makes a mistake, Trevor does bad.

Later on in the interview, the Trevor actor told me his character really had “no right” to try and do something like this, and ultimately, it highlighted the tough position Sam is in with these ghosts. Explaining the limited world the ghosts live in within the manor and the role Rose McIver’s character plays in that, Asher Grodman said:

Trevor kind of has no right to be trying to do what he’s trying to do. And it kind of leans into how limited we all are, and puts Sam in this very hard position of being an intermediary for us to the real world.

Grodman loved this choice because it was an opportunity to show how “flawed” the ghosts are and how sometimes they can use Sam. In the episode, McIver’s character makes it clear she doesn’t want to interfere in Pinkus’ relationship with his daughter by asking him to reveal that Trevor is her biological father. However, the ghost wasn’t having it, so he took matters into his own hands and then really messed up while also putting the blame on Sam, who had set clear boundaries.

As I said, Trevor’s mistake was much larger and more life-altering than other missteps he’s had, and he made it look like it was Sam’s fault, which is terrible. To that point, the actor told me:

Sam does so much for these ghosts, and these ghosts, because we are all children, sometimes it feels like we have the emotional awareness of a third grader, we can run over her sometimes. And so for Trevor, just to kind of be wrong and have that interaction with Sam, and investing a little bit in that relationship, I thought was really fun.

Really, Trevor had no right to act this way, as it was an invasion of both Pinkus’ and Sam’s privacy. So, hopefully, this serves as a growth point for him.

Grodman told me it did act as a good moment for McIver’s human to push back against the ghost, and it allowed for an ultimately good development in their relationship, as he explained:

And to see Sam really kind of push back on Trevor, that’s also very exciting for me, because at the end of the day, the relationships in the house are the primary relationships we’re building. And Sam was giving us a lot of leeway. There’s no coming back from what Trevor does in this episode.

Overall, this served as another massive development for the ghosts and a big learning moment for Trevor.

Let’s review: Sas had a death-altering event last week with Joan. Hetty’s ghost power was revealed not long before that. And now Trevor has a kid. However, in Trevor’s case specifically, how he reacted afterward also deeply impacted many people around him, namely Abby, Pinkus and Sam, and he didn’t really have the right to do that.

So, yes, Asher Grodman is right; what Trevor did wasn’t good. However, it was a lesson he seemingly learned from, and I’m excited to see how he evolves after this whole incident, especially since we know we’ll be with the ghosts for at least two more seasons.

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