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TALLADEGA, Ala. — Ricky Stenhouse Jr. continued to show he can race well on the drafting tracks as he added to the growing list of non-playoff drivers who have salvaged their season with at least a victory.

Stenhouse edged Brad Keselowski across the finish line Sunday at Talladega Superspeedway to earn his first Cup win since the 2023 Daytona 500.

“It was a lot of hard work this season just trying to find a little bit of speed, but we knew that this track is one of ours to come get,” said Stenhouse, who drives for the single-car JTG Daugherty Racing team co-owned by former NBA star Brad Daugherty.

Stenhouse was out front when a 28-car pileup — the biggest (as far as number of cars) in NASCAR Cup Series history — took out many potential winning cars as well as either wounding or knocking out several playoff drivers.

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With a third-place finish, William Byron clinched a spot on points in NASCAR’s semifinal round (Round of 8) while 11 drivers will vie for the final seven spots next Sunday at the Charlotte road course.

Takeaways from Talladega, where the only playoff drivers to finish in the top 10 were Byron, Kyle Larson (fourth), Christopher Bell (sixth) and Denny Hamlin (10th).

Big, Big Wreck

The 28-car pileup with four laps remaining was triggered when Joey Logano got into the back of Brad Keselowski, who turned Austin Cindric in front of the entire field as they ran in the bottom lane.

Keselowski said as they were trying to lap Todd Gilliland, who had lost the draft because of a pit-road speeding penalty, they got a little too stretched out and then the draft sucked them in too quickly.

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“When [Gilliland] blocked the bottom lane with all the Fords in it, it caused us all to react — we stretched the rubber band and it snapped back down the backstretch,” Keselowski said. “I caught the 2 car [of Cindric] and checked up [off the throttle] a little bit and the 22 [of Logano] came and hit me and all three of us ran into each other.

“I don’t really think Austin or Joey did anything wrong. I don’t know what I could do any different.” 

Joey Logano on the big wreck and why he didn’t have fun at Talladega

Cindric and Logano, the two playoff drivers knocked out of the wreck, lamented how they seemed to be in solid position with all the Fords working together.

“It’s just an off-center push and that’s the easiest thing to spin a guy out. … I don’t see any fault on Joey’s end there — he wasn’t locked to the 6 [of Keselowski] while the 6 gave me the push,” Cindric said. “Was it frustrating? Yeah. I couldn’t be any more pissed than I am, but it’s not going to change anything.” 

Both Cindric and Logano will need to have stellar performances at Charlotte next week and need help to advance.

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“The 2 got out there a little bit more than he has been, and the 21 [of Harrison Burton] gave me a shove and transferred that to the 6 and he got to the 2 with a fair amount of steam,” Logano said. “It’s not anybody’s fault. It’s not Brad’s fault.” 

Blaney Furious With Bowman

Defending Cup champion Ryan Blaney was out of the race by the end of the second stage as Alex Bowman tried to give him a push and ended up turning him.

“The 48 [of Bowman] just drove straight through me in the tri-oval,” Blaney said. “He just wrecked the [expletive] out of me. I don’t know what he’s thinking. I thought he would have more sense than that, but obviously he didn’t.

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“I see him hauling ass toward me and you think, ‘You kind of have to lift a little bit. You can’t just run wide open through somebody in the tri-oval.’ But he did.”

Ryan Blaney on frustration after a failed push from Alex Bowman

Bowman said it was his mistake.

“It was a bad push,” Bowman said. “I lifted as I rolled up to him but certainly not enough. I had been pushed there a couple times and if I would have gotten to him 100 feet later, he would have been OK.

“He was still turning enough that it obviously hooked him. … I was just trying to push him forward and obviously it was a bad push.”

But with the big accident in the race, Blaney left the track in the same position as he started — 25 points above the cutline.

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NASCAR Adjusts Wrecked Car Rules

NASCAR didn’t announce a change in interpretation of its damaged vehicle policy prior to the race but made an obvious adjustment to it following the big wreck.

NASCAR previously had determined that if a car couldn’t get to pit road under its own power after having contact with another car or the wall, the driver must get out of the car and be out of the race.

But after Josh Berry didn’t seem to have much damage and was knocked out of the race last week in the opening lap at Kansas, NASCAR reconsidered that strict interpretation and towed some vehicles back to pit road Sunday.

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The two vehicles — Chase Briscoe and Chase Elliott — were both playoff drivers.

“Our goal is never to put good cars out of the race,” NASCAR Senior Vice President Elton Sawyer said. “Based on our experiences last week at Kansas and what happened there with the 4 car [of Berry], we felt like we probably could have made a different call there.

“We had a good car that probably just needed tires. As we went into this, we wanted to err on the side of the competitor.”

After the big wreck, NASCAR eventually lifted the red flag (which stops the race with no work allowed to be done on the cars) to yellow with the expectation that the caution car would then begin leading the cars stopped on the track back around with the race resumed.

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But after NASCAR went from red to yellow, officials realized they needed to do more cleanup, leaving some cars still on the track waiting to roll and get to pit road for repairs while the cars already on pit road at the time the race was stopped could start working on them. 

“We still had safety equipment that was still moving, so for safety for all, held the caution vehicle a little longer,” Sawyer said. “Totally understand the competitors [arguing] that we had cars on pit road that got a little more opportunity to do some work.” 

Bob Pockrass covers NASCAR for FOX Sports. He has spent decades covering motorsports, including over 30 Daytona 500s, with stints at ESPN, Sporting News, NASCAR Scene magazine and The (Daytona Beach) News-Journal. Follow him on Twitter @bobpockrass.

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Brodie Kostecki has stunned the Supercars paddock with a dazzling Shootout lap to take pole position for Sunday’s Bathurst 1000.

The reigning Supercars Champion put a troubled season on the back burner to set the fastest qualifying lap of the weekend, his Erebus Motorsport Chevrolet Camaro lapping the 6.2km track in 2m05.5119s.

“I wasn’t sure I was going to get it, it was not my best lap around here all weekend,” said Kostecki, who will share his car with Todd Hazelwood.

“I had a bad tyre vibration, I was starting to get double vision at one point. I wasn’t feeling very well yesterday and I actually watched the [earlier] co-drivers’ session from the house.”

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Cameron Waters looked to have Kostecki’s measure when he was the second-last man out but the Tickford Racing Ford looked to lose a little speed in the third and final sector, and will line up second in the car he will share with James Moffat.

“I really wanted that but Brodie’s lap was awesome,” said Waters. “We are in the mix and the front row is pretty good. I have been focusing pretty hard on the race car and it feels good.”

Broc Feeney, who missed out on provisional pole position in Friday’s qualifying session because of a late red flag, finished the session in third place, sharing the Triple Eight Chevrolet with Jamie Whincup.

Richie Stanaway delivered a brilliant  performance to seal fourth. As the first man out in the single-lap session the 32-year-old New Zealander set a benchmark time of 2m05.9286s in his Ford before returning to the Grove Racing garage to watch as the next five drivers tried but failed to match his time.

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Stanaway, who does not have a confirmed Supercars seat for 2025, had a wild moment at the first corner but stormed over the rest of the first sector.

After setting the fastest time in Friday qualifying Stanaway’s team-mate Matt Payne dropped to seventh in the shootout after touching the wall at the exit of Forrest’s Elbow.

Points leader Will Brown will start from fifth on the grid for Triple Eight ahead of Erebus’ Jack Le Brocq, whose Chevrolet touched the wall on the way up the hill.

Anton De Pasquale gave the hard-working Dick Johnson Racing Ford team some comfort with the eighth fastest time, while Chaz Mostert will be right behind him in the Walkinshaw Andretti United Ford.

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Tenth place went to Andre Heimgartner who, in his first-ever Bathurst shootout, ran wide at the first corner, losing about eight seconds. He will share the Brad Jones Racing Chevrolet with Declan Fraser.

The Supercars will return to the hallowed Bathurst track at 8:15am, Australian Eastern Daylight Savings time, before the start of the 161-lap classic, set for 11:30am.

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Red Bull’s RB21 will be an ‘evolution’, team explains wind tunnel limitations

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Red Bull is planning an evolution of its current RB20 car for 2025, believing that investing in a bold revamp is not worth it.

With the Milton Keynes-based squad locked in a tight championship fight with McLaren, it is mindful that, if it does not make solid gains this winter, it could risk an even more difficult campaign next year.

However, a combination of cost cap limits, plus the need to ramp up efforts for the new rules revolution coming in 2026 when Red Bull will run its own engine, has prompted it to step away from doing anything radical.

Speaking about how the squad was dealing with the different requirements of now, next year and 2026, team boss Christian Horner said: “In this business, you’re always juggling and you’ve got to put one foot in front of the other.

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“You can’t project too far into the future. Long term in F1 is about two and a half months and, basically, what we learn this year is relevant to next year.

“So next year’s car will be an evolution of this year’s car. I mean, there’s many components of last year’s car that have been carried over into this year, because with the way the cost cap works, unless there’s significant performance upgrade, it doesn’t make sense [to change].”

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Red Bull’s decision to not overstretch itself with car changes for next year comes as it ramps up to run its first F1 engine from the start of 2026.

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It has invested heavily in its new Red Bull Powertrains division, which it is convinced will bring it gains despite the huge costs.

“It is by far our biggest challenge,” added Horner. “We’ve created a start-up business, aggressively recruited 600 people into it, built a factory, put in the process and brought a group of people together to work within a Red Bull culture that has been so successful on the chassis side.

“Of course, many have come from other teams, competitors and suppliers in F1, and that’s a massive undertaking to get 600 people and all your processes, your supply chain, everything geared up to deliver for two teams in ’26.

“We also have the benefit of a great partner in Ford Motor Company and that relationship is working very well. But inevitably there will be short-term pain, but there is a long-term gain of having everything under one roof with engineers.

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“We’ve already seen the benefit and the difference of having chassis and engine engineers sitting essentially next to each other as we start to integrate the ‘26 engine into the ‘26 car.”

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Wind tunnel factor

As Red Bull has dug deep into the factors that have hurt the progress of its current RB20, problems with wind tunnel correlation have been exposed.

It comes with the team still operating from the same Bedford facility that it has used since it entered F1 in 2005.

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While work has begun on a new state-of-the-art facility at its Milton Keynes factory, that is unlikely to be up and running before 2026.

Horner insisted that Red Bull was always mindful that, while it has upgraded Bedford over the years, it is not as technically advanced as more modern facilities.

“We’ve always known the limitations of the tunnel,” he said. “But I think as we’ve really started to push the aerodynamics of these cars now and you’re into really fine margins, then the limitations show themselves up.”

He added that committing to invest in its new wind tunnel was only possible once it became clear that the idea of outlawing teams from using such facilities had been abandoned.

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“There was a point in time that wind tunnels could have been banned,” he said.

“There was a discussion about whether that was going to be the case, and whether CFD would overtake it or not.

“Adrian [Newey] held off pushing for a new tunnel until there was clarity on that. But it got to a point where Aston Martin wanted a new tunnel and the FIA changed their stance.

“So it was a question of: ‘Look, we have to do this, and we have to do this now, because the regulations dictate that, within a cost cap, the tunnel that we’re running is grossly inefficient.’”

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Asked what the challenges Red Bull faced with its Bedford tunnel were, Horner said:“We’ve got a facility that is a 60-year-old wind tunnel. It is a relic of the Cold War.

“It’s been good enough to produce some fantastic cars for us over the years. But it has its limitations.

“So anything under five degrees [centigrade], we can’t run it. Anything over 25 degrees, it becomes pretty unstable.”

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