Singer and “Real Housewives of Atlanta” alum Kandi Burruss confirmed that she’d filed for divorce from producer Todd Tucker in November 2025. Now, months later, following the divorce being finalized, the “Don’t Bring Your Man To Atlanta” filmmaker is opening up about the split, alluding to him having considered suicide at one point.

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Page Six interviewed Tucker in September 2026, featuring the former “RHOA” crew member promoting his upcoming projects, including his movie, “Don’t Bring Your Man To Atlanta,” and new reality project, “Till Divorce Do Us Part.”

During the conversation, he was asked how he handled the difficult moments of his divorce from Burruss. Tucker responded, “I’m gonna be honest, when we separated, I stayed in the guesthouse, which is just me in this big house by myself. My kids and the family are next door, and it was a lot of alone time.”

After that, Tucker said he lacked support during the divorce. According to him, “It was a lot of time in my head, thinking, trying to figure out, ‘What did I just do? What just happened? Did I lose my family?’ So I’m gonna be honest, I had nobody really to lean on.”

After that, he reiterated a moment from the trailer for his reality project, “I looked at my gun. I was like, but then I snapped out of it.”

In discussing what he realized he had to live for despite feeling alone, Tucker recalled, “I was like, ‘No, you have a family. You have kids that you have to see through.’” He added, “It was a lot of dark times.”

Todd Says His Life Has Improved Since Reaching A Low Point

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Tucker continued his Page Six interview by discussing how much his life has changed since he felt isolated after his divorce from Burruss. He stated, “But since then, I’ve been going to church.”

After that, the 53-year-old discussed his plans to improve his mental health and other areas of his life, including fatherhood. According to him, “I’m about to find me a therapist and just take this journey of rebuilding myself, getting myself where I wanna be and being the best dad and the best co-parent and moving forward.”

Todd Also Shared Thoughts On Mama Joyce

After that, Tucker was asked about his ex-mother-in-law, Mama Joyce, who openly criticized him on “The Real Housewives of Atlanta,” both before and during his marriage to Burruss. Specifically, the reporter asked how it felt to not have her directly involved in his life.

The dad of three responded, “I think it’s a weight lifted off my shoulders.” He then reflected, saying, “It was like I was trying to prove myself to somebody who didn’t like me, and I never stopped.” From there, he shared that despite their contentious relationship, he taught his children to respect their grandmother, adding, “I still cared.”

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He continued, “Even though she didn’t like me, you know, at the end of the day I feel like it’s a weight lifted off my shoulders. That’s still my kids’ grandma, and I want them to still have a great relationship.”

The Father Of Three Previously Reflected On His Divorce From Kandi

Tucker appeared on radio station V-103’s “Big Tigger Morning Show” in September 2026. Early in the interview, the hosts asked for an update on how he’d coped with his divorce from Burruss following their 11-year marriage.

He said, “I’m not whole. I went from being at home with my family every day. The dog, the kids, the nanny, the wife, and now I’m by myself, pretty much.” After that, he discussed masking his loneliness with “going out” and “drinking.”

He then said, “I don’t think people understand, like, divorce; I lost my person.” After saying that the reason for the split from Burruss didn’t matter, Tucker added, “I still lost my person, and I lost my family as I knew it.”

Kandi Burruss Has Responded To Todd Tucker’s Threesome Claims

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The trailer for Tucker’s reality project, “Till Divorce Do Us Part,” features him alongside other men, some of whom appeared on “The Real Housewives of Atlanta,” as he discusses his split from Burruss. In one section, he stated that they had threesomes throughout their marriage.

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This led Burruss to issue a statement to PEOPLE in which she accused her ex of being a clout chaser. She said, “A man who has already hurt me to my core is furthering the damage by choosing to sensationalize our sex life to stretch his five minutes of fame.”

The statement continued, “What consensually happens between a husband and wife in the privacy of their marriage is exactly that, private. His current behavior has only confirmed that I did the right thing by getting divorced. I Do, I Did, I’m Done!”

During his Page Six interview, Tucker was asked about Burruss’ statement, with the reporter referring to the threesome claims as their “private marital sex life.” He interjected during the question, saying, “Did we have a private marital sex life?” For context, Tucker is referring to Burruss previously being open about their sex life on “The Real Housewives of Atlanta” and in various interviews.

He continued, “And this is not even from me. Like, you’ve heard it from her. So, how private is it? Even when she first started saying that we had done threesomes, she didn’t consult with me. She just… and that’s what she does.”

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Rita Wilson is showing off her surprising body ink.

On Saturday, September 19, the actress and singer shared a topless photo via Instagram, revealing a large cross tattooed on her back.

The artwork resembles her son Chet Hanks’ own tattoo of a cross emblazoned across his back.

“STRANGER WITH AGE? Who? Me? I’m lovin’ it! Who else is stranger with age? STRANGER WITH AGE song is out everywhere,” Wilson, 69, captioned the post, referring to her new single.

Wilson shares sons Chet, 36, and Truman, 30, with husband Tom Hanks. (Hanks is also dad to actor Colin, 48, and writer Elizabeth, 44, from his first marriage to late ex-wife Samantha Lewes.)

Wilson and Hanks got married in 1988 and have been going strong ever since.

Earlier this year, Wilson recalled her 2015 battle with breast cancer and the two things she asked her husband in the event that she didn’t survive.

“I said to Tom, I’m like, ‘OK, if something happens and I go first, I just have two requests,’” the actress said during the Sound of a Woman: Rita Wilson in Conversation with Demi Moore event at New York City’s 92nd Street Y in April.

Wilson said her first request for the Oscar winner was that he “should be sad for a very, very long time.”

“The second one was, throw me a party,” she shared. “I want it to be a celebration of life. I want it to be about people telling stories and joy and remembering me in that way. And I think people, a lot of people want that, you know? I think there’s room for that.”

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The Jingle All the Way actress celebrated 10 years of being cancer-free in March 2025.

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“I am so deeply grateful,” she said in an Instagram video at the time. “I’m so thankful to my doctors. To my friends, to my family. The gratitude is overwhelming. Didn’t always feel this way. And you know that, anybody who’s going through [it, or] who’s survived knows that it’s an up and down, like, hamster wheel. But then you get to this point.”

Wilson first shared her breast cancer diagnosis in April 2015.

“Last week, with my husband by my side, and with the love and support of family and friends, I underwent a bilateral mastectomy and reconstruction for breast cancer after a diagnosis of invasive lobular carcinoma,” Wilson said in a statement to Us at the time. “I am recovering and most importantly, expected to make a full recovery. Why? Because I caught this early, have excellent doctors and because I got a second opinion.”

Kid Rock was reportedly set to appear at a political event with a history of cancellations, but his representative quickly swooped in for damage control.

The singer was added to MAGA-inspired Patriot’s Day Freedom Fest days before organizers called it off. The Kentucky event was promoted as a major pro-Trump gathering featuring several conservative personalities. The poor ticket sales ultimately forced organizer Eric Deters to cancel the festival.

Kid Rock was among the names attached to the MAGA-inspired event alongside Dog the Bounty Hunter and Joe Concha. The singer’s representative now says the cancellation had little to do with him and that he had no other connection to the festival.

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Patriot’s Day Freedom Fest was scheduled to take place in Kentucky on Saturday. The event was expected to begin at 4 p.m. and end at 7 p.m. with a fireworks show.

Deters had promoted the gathering as the “best MAGA event” while attempting to attract supporters. General admission and parking were supposed to remain free for attendees.

The lineup included Kid Rock, Duane “Dog the Bounty Hunter” Chapman and Fox News personality Joe Concha. Other names on the poster included Kentucky Republican congressional candidate Ed Gallrein, Rep. James Comer and Jackie Kallen.

Kid Rock was reportedly added only five days before the cancellation and was booked to speak rather than perform. His representative also told the outlet that he had “no other ties to the event,” creating clear distance between the singer and the failed festival.

Deters announced the cancellation in a since-deleted Facebook video according to Newsweek and The Cincinnati Enquirer. He said only six people had purchased the $1,000 VIP tickets he hoped would fund the event.

Deters also said he would “never ever, ever, ever, ever” hold the event again. Entertainment Weekly reported that Deters rejected the idea that Kid Rock caused the cancellation. He said the cancellation “had absolutely nothing to do” with the singer.

The MAGA-Inspired Event Has A History Of Cancellations Before This Year’s Poor Ticket Sales

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Deters had planned to finance the event through VIP ticket sales. He hoped roughly 100 people from his network would purchase $1,000 VIP packages. Instead, only six VIP tickets had reportedly been sold when he checked the numbers. 

IBTimes reported that the 2026 cancellation marked the third time Deters had scrapped the festival since 2023. The outlet also noted that supporters had previously paid $5,000 for VIP tickets when Deters promised Donald Trump would attend a past edition.

The festival’s problems did not begin with the 2026 edition. Deters first canceled the 2023 event after promoting Trump as its expected headliner. He initially said Trump could no longer attend before rescheduling the gathering twelve days later.

The event was then canceled again on September 1, leaving supporters without the festival that year. He later revived the event after speakers and members of the public asked him to continue.

In 2024, the festival returned for three days, featuring a music night, speeches, and a church service. The festival itself began at the Morning View farm in 2021.

It was reported that Deters said around 8,000 people attended in 2022, while other prominent names who had appeared there included Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, and Candace Owens.

Kid Rock Previously Faced Questions Over Another Conservative Event

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Earlier in 2026, Turning Point USA organized an alternative halftime show featuring the singer as its main attraction. The show was presented as an alternative to the official Super Bowl halftime performance. Afterward, some viewers accused Kid Rock of lip-syncing because the performance had reportedly been pre-taped.

Kid Rock addressed those accusations during an appearance on Fox News “The Ingraham Angle.” He acknowledged that the show had been pre-taped but denied intentionally lip-syncing. He explained that his DJ was not properly highlighted.

He also said he was moving around while performing and breathing through his vocals. The Blast shared that Kid Rock confirmed the show had been pre-taped but described the issue as a syncing problem.

“It was very difficult,” he said, while explaining that he had noticed the problem when he saw an early version of the performance. The alternative show reportedly attracted around five million concurrent viewers shortly after 8 p.m. EST. Other performers included Lee Brice, Brantley Gilbert and Gabby Barrett.

The Music Star Has A Positive Friendship With The President

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Kid Rock has also continued to speak publicly about his relationship with Donald Trump. The singer has described their friendship as longstanding and has spoken positively about having direct conversations with the president. Their relationship dates back to Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.

Kid Rock has also appeared at Trump-related events and publicly supported the president. In a 2026 interview, however, Kid Rock gave a blunt description of Trump’s second administration. He called it “the greatest sh-t show on Earth” while still describing his friendship with Trump as something he enjoyed.

The singer said it was “f-cking awesome” having a friend in such a powerful position. He described their conversations as lighthearted and said he enjoyed having a “front-row seat” to the administration.

The Blast revealed that Kid Rock also defended Trump against critics who question his priorities. The singer said he believes Trump’s concern is “for this country, period,” and argued that leaders should put their countries first.

The interview also came after speculation that the pair had grown apart. Those rumors gained attention after Kid Rock did not publicly wish Trump a happy birthday in 2026.

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The birthday speculation followed a public appearance where Kid Rock was present for Trump’s 80th birthday celebration. However, the singer was not seen sitting near Trump at the UFC Freedom 250 event. Kid Rock also did not perform the national anthem at the celebration.

That role instead went to country singer Zac Brown. Despite those details, Kid Rock’s comments suggested that he did not view his friendship with Trump as damaged. 

The singer continued speaking positively about their relationship during his July interview. Trump has also publicly praised Kid Rock on several occasions. During his 2024 Republican National Convention acceptance speech, Trump described the musician as a friend and called him “amazing.”

The president also praised Kid Rock when the singer introduced him at the National Guard Association’s 146th General Conference. He called the Detroit rocker “a great guy and a talented one.” 

The president has even referred to Kid Rock as “Bob.” He used the nickname while congratulating him on the opening of his Nashville restaurant, which Trump described as a “very friendly MAGA establishment.”

Kid Rock responded by thanking Trump and telling him to keep “kickin’ -ss for America.” Against that backdrop, his representative’s latest statement makes his limited involvement in the canceled Freedom Fest especially clear.

Kid Rock’s representatives’ statement has drawn a firm line between him and the canceled Freedom Fest.

Social media users are reacting after a woman named Mookie shared a few photos showing her kissing, or locking lips, with Blueface.

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Mookie Shares Photos Showing Her Locking Lips With Blueface

On the evening of Monday, September 21, Mookie took to her Instagram to share a carousel of photos, some featuring Blueface. Furthermore, most of the photos featured selfies along with a look at her backside. However, a few showed her locking lips with Blueface while they appeared to be standing on a yacht.

“NOT PHOTOGENIC BUT U GET THE MESSAGE 🙂‍↕️🙆🏽‍♀️💙,” she captioned the photos.

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Social media users slid in TSR Teens’ comment section with reactions to Mookie locking lips with Blueface.

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As The Shade Room previously reported, earlier this month, Nevaeh Akira announced that she and Blueface had broken up. Subsequently, she shared an apologetic message for Blue. Additionally, it appeared that the two may have been reconciling when Blue livestreamed them getting together earlier this week, showing him seeing their newborn son.

At this time, Blueface has not shared any details about himself and Mookie on his social media accounts.

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Best known for her breathtaking role as Velma Kelly in the 2002 true-crime musical Chicago, Catherine Zeta-Jones is still, without question, one of Hollywood’s most important actresses. The late ’90s and early 2000s were a great time for fans of Zeta-Jones, as she starred in massive hits like The Mask of Zorro (co-starring Antonio Banderas), Entrapment (co-starring Sean Connery), and even Traffic (co-starring Michael Douglas and Benicio del Toro). Zeta-Jones never picked up another Oscar nomination following her career-defining performance in Chicago, but she’s been steadily starring in other movies and TV shows in the last few years despite the lack of awards recognition. She even stars as Morticia in one of the biggest Netflix shows of all time, Wednesday, which features Jenna Ortega as the titular character, Wednesday Addams.

Catherine Zeta-Jones is always on the lookout for her next big streaming hit, and she’s found another starring role in a show that could quietly be one of the most impressive of the entire year. Zeta-Jones will star opposite Daniel Ings, Bill Paterson, and Ron Perlman in the new action thriller series, Kill Jackie, which is set to premiere on October 2. Today, Collider is thrilled to bring you an exclusive sneak peek at what’s to come. In addition to starring in the leading role, Zeta-Jones also serves as an executive producer on the show, which is based on the novel The Price You Pay by Nick Harkaway. The show was written and created for TV by Conor Keane and Tom Butterworth, and additional cast members include Sidse Babett Knudsen, Óscar Jaenada, Hattie Hook, Darci Shaw, Raff Law, Enzo Cilenti, Christine Adams, Tadashi Ito, and more.

What Is ‘Kill Jackie’ About?

AMC+ has released an official synopsis for Kill Jackie, which reads as follows: “Kill Jackie follows Jackie Price (Zeta-Jones), who has spent the last twenty years living a quiet, luxurious existence selling fine art while remaining anonymous after escaping a criminal past. Her carefully constructed world is shattered when she discovers that The Seven Demons, a squad of ruthless assassins, have been hired to kill her. Jackie will need to unleash her old instincts and execute a dangerous plan to take down the Demons.” The show is set to be a must-watch for fans of Killing Eve and John Wick. AMC+ is also home to some of the most popular TV shows in the world, including The Walking Dead, The Vampire Lestat, and The Terror: Devil in Silver, which was produced by Ridley Scott.

Stay tuned to Collider for more updates and coverage of Catherine Zeta-Jones’ new TV show, Kill Jackie, which launches on AMC+ on October 2.

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Inde Navarrette is already thinking about one of the most recognizable elements of Rogue as she prepares to join Marvel’s X-Men: her unmistakable Southern accent.

Speaking with Entertainment Tonight, Navarrette revealed that her own upbringing in Texas will provide some inspiration for her portrayal of Rogue. The actress spent a significant portion of her childhood in Corpus Christi and remembers the Southern women she grew up around as an influence on how she is approaching the character.

“I grew up in Texas for a good majority of my life,” Navarrette said. “So honestly, those Southern women are really my favorite. Corpus Christi is the city specifically.”

However, Navarrette knows that a Texas accent isn’t necessarily Rogue’s accent.

In Marvel Comics, Rogue, also known as Anna Marie, comes from Mississippi, and Navarrette wants to spend time there before stepping into the role.

“But specifically, Mississippi, Rogue is from Mississippi,” Navarrette explained. “So, I’m really just — I want to go there. I really want to do her justice.”

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Rogue’s Southern Voice Is Part of the Character

Getting Rogue’s voice right could be particularly important for longtime X-Men fans.

Rogue’s Southern drawl has become one of the character’s defining traits, especially through Lenore Zann’s performance in X-Men: The Animated Series and, more recently, X-Men ’97. Navarrette’s comments suggest Marvel’s new live-action interpretation won’t abandon that aspect of the character.

Navarrette was officially announced as Rogue during D23 in August. She joins a growing X-Men ensemble that includes Sadie Sink as Jean Grey, Kit Connor as Cyclops, Maya Boyd as Storm, Christopher Abbott as Professor Charles Xavier, Samara Weaving as Emma Frost and Adam Driver as Mister Sinister. Asa Germann was also recently added as Angel.

Thunderbolts filmmaker Jake Schreier is directing Marvel’s new take on the mutant team.

While audiences will have to wait to hear exactly what Navarrette’s Rogue sounds like, the actress appears determined to make the character’s Mississippi roots part of her performance rather than simply adopting a generic Southern drawl.

Marvel’s X-Men is currently scheduled to hit theaters May 5, 2028.

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds‘ fourth and penultimate season is warping to its conclusion. It’s going to conclude with a bang in “Tomorrow’s Enterprise,” a season finale that sees the USS Enterprise of the present and future in collision. The episode will premiere exclusively on Paramount+ on Thursday, September 24, but before that stardate, Collider is proud to present an exclusive sneak preview clip from the episode, as we see the future Enterprise crew begin to take shape.

Strange New Worlds is a prequel to Star Trek: The Original Series, the Trek show that begat them all. It features the familiar Enterprise, and some familiar crew members, like Uhura (Celia Rose Gooding), Spock (Ethan Peck), Christine Chapel (Jess Bush), and Montgomery “Scotty” Scott (Martin Quinn), but under the command of Captain Christopher Pike (Anson Mount), whose ultimate destiny is well-known to Trek fans, and to Pike himself. As the series goes on, the crew who’ll serve under James Kirk (Paul Wesley) are starting to come into focus.

That’s showcased in our exclusive sneak peek of the finale, which is apparently set in the show’s future. Kirk now commands the ship, stalking the bridge with a William Shatner-ian ease as he discusses the results of last week’s poker game with Spock, Scotty, and Uhura; the latter is now sporting a hairstyle very similar to that worn by Nichelle Nichols when she originated the role. Also present is Dr. Phil Boyce (Brian Markinson), who eagle-eyed Trek fans will recognize from a key moment in the franchise’s history. The ship is about to conduct an experiment that will require some fancy flying, and Kirk’s called in someone he calls “the best pilot in Starfleet.” That raises two questions: is the show about to introduce another Trek legacy character? And if so, what happened to the Enterprise‘s previous ace pilot, Erica Ortegas (Melissa Navia)? You’ll have to tune in to find out.

Who Is Dr. Phil Boyce?

Dr. Phil Boyce was played by John Hoyt (Spartacus) in “The Cage,” the original pilot for Star Trek, which takes place before the events of Strange New Worlds. “The Cage” was rejected by the network, and Boyce was replaced by Dr. Mark Piper (Paul Fix, The Rifleman) in the show’s second pilot, and then by the familiar Dr. Leonard “Bones” McCoy (DeForest Kelley) for the rest of the series. However, Boyce did appear in the two-part episode “The Menagerie,” which was made by combining “The Cage” with new footage. Sixty years later, Boyce returned on the Strange New Worlds episode “Off-Hour,” having transferred back to the Enterprise from his previous posting, the USS Sunita.

“Tomorrow’s Enterprise,” the Season 4 finale of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, premieres on Paramount+ tomorrow, September 24. Stay tuned to Collider for future updates.

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President Donald Trump had terse words for CNN correspondent Kaitlan Collins after he recently banned the news outlet from the White House.

Collins, 34, attempted to quiz Trump, 80, about the Iran war outside a United Nations General Assembly event in New York City on Tuesday, September 22, when Trump said, “I’m surprised that CNN is here covering me.”

Collins responded, “The United Nations allowed us in here, sir.”

“You should not be here,” Trump hit back at the reporter. “You should not be here covering me. You said you weren’t going to cover me.”

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In a Truth Social post late Tuesday, Trump again lashed out at Collins, writing, “All of the SLEAZEBAGS, like Third Rate ‘Reporter,’ Kaitlan Collins, of Fake News CNN, a truly unhappy person, said they weren’t going to be covering me.”

“Then why were they ranting and raving like Lunatics, in the Press Area, at the United Nations? Why was she there? She’s got a ‘TRUMP’ addiction, and so does CNN and MSDNC. They’re all sick, treasonous, and demented!” he continued.

On Friday, September 18, Trump announced a White House ban on CNN, MSNOW and Politico “effectively immediately … as a result of their constant ‘reporting’ FAKE NEWS!”

“Media Outlets shouldn’t be able to constantly write or report FICTION and LIES when they’re covering the President of the United States, the Trump Administration, or the United States of America. Other Fake News Media Outlets to follow. Thank you for your attention to this matter,” he wrote via Truth Social.

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The three outlets filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration on Monday, September 21, “to protect our First Amendment rights and defend the principle that the government does not decide what the press reports or publishes,” they said in a joint statement after reporters were barred from White House grounds two days prior.

“Without notice or process, the White House revoked our journalists’ credentials because it objected to our reporting. Left unchallenged, this threatens press freedom and the public’s right to independent journalism free from government interference,” the outlets said.

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Trump has previously targeted Collins, including comparing her to trans actress Dylan Mulvaney during the White House Correspondents’ Dinner in July.

Collins reacted to the incident during an appearance on The Daily Show, saying, “I’ve always felt this, regardless of who’s the president … it’s really not about me, and I don’t want it to be about my reaction. If you let it become about that, then it becomes a back-and-forth between the two of us.”

“Instead, I think it’s more important to remind people in those moments when he is insulting me, he is criticizing me … it’s important to put the reminder back on the work, on the question, and on the non-answers that we get,” she added.

Editor’s note: The following contains major spoilers for Lioness Season 3.

After that shocking reveal in the Season 3 finale of Lioness, finally making the individual behind the kidnapping of Joe (Zoe Saldaña) known to viewers, her fate as well as that of her entire team hang in the balance. On top of that, Joe was forced to return home, only to find it empty, her husband (Dave Annable) and their two daughters gone, and just a note left behind. And with Kaitlyn (Nicole Kidman) already wanting to discuss Joe’s future, there are a lot of questions left unanswered, including whether there will be a Season 4.

Collider recently got the opportunity to chat with Saldaña about her reaction to learning that Aaliyah Amrohi (Stephanie Nur) was the one behind everything with Joe, how she found out about the twist, the ramifications it could all have moving forward, what could be next for her marriage, who Joe is if she’s taken out of the field, her favorite scene to shoot, the gift she’s been given in working alongside all the Lioness women, and the need for a Season 4.

Zoe Saldaña Was Excited About the Season 3 Finale Reveal That She Says Turned the Action Series Into a Saga

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COLLIDER: My jaw was on the floor with this finale. That reveal was wild and I didn’t see it coming. How did you find out where this season would end and that it was Aaliyah that was responsible? What was your reaction?

ZOE SALDAÑA: With Season 3, Taylor [Sheridan] was literally writing and finishing the scripts a week before we were prepping them to shoot. That’s how big his world has become, but also, that’s how in demand he is with all the shows that he’s currently writing on. He personally wrote all of our seasons, and I’m so incredibly grateful because that meant that we always had direct and fast access to Taylor and he’s a really great storyteller.

I was finishing up Episode 6 when I got the script, probably two days before anybody else got it. Jill [Wagner] also gets them because she’s the producer and she’s one of the creators of the show, so she gets them in real time. He sends them to her and she reads them, and then they send them to me. And I was so happy. I was excited. It felt to me like a novella. All of a sudden, it went from this paramilitary operative show that’s high-octane and action and thriller and suspense to a saga, and I like that. I really do.

What ramifications do you think that will have moving forward? At this point, there has to be another season.

SALDAÑA: We would be so grateful if we’re able to come back. I think that this cliffhanger is so jaw-dropping that if we get canceled after this positive reception, I am going to be a little vocal about it. Paramount is thrilled. 101 is thrilled. Bosque Ranch, which is Taylor’s production company, is thrilled. We all, as producers, are super excited. I know Nicole [Kidman] and I are very excited. It would be a dream come true, to come back. The thing that I always want to remind people of is that, though the show draws inspiration from real world elements to build tension and suspense, it’s ultimately a fictional narrative that’s designed to entertain. Current events may naturally lead audiences to draw their own comparisons, but Lioness was not created as a response to any one geopolitical event news cycle.

That said, I think that history has shown us that when innocent people lose their homes and they’re displaced, they lose their families and they lose essential parts of themselves as a consequence of war and as casualties of war. These people are basically losing their innocence, and their lives are changed forever. So, I think that Aaliyah is going to represent something bigger and much more familiar in today’s geopolitical era. Obviously, on a much more fictional, fantastical scale because let’s pray and hope that many of these people don’t have the physical financial ability to come back and seek answers for what happened to them, but it would be naive to think that these lives are unchanged forever. It would be horrible and quite wrong to think that these lives aren’t marked forever. I commend Taylor for exercising that hypothesis.

Zoe Saldaña Isn’t Surprised That Joe’s Husband Finally Reached His Limit in the ‘Lioness’ Season 3 Finale

“Put yourself in Neal’s shoes. There’s only so much he can do to support his wife and partner.”

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We also know at the end of the finale that Joe’s husband has emptied the house, packed up, and left with their daughters. He’s supported her in the past, at times when it really has taken a heavy toll on him, so has he just reached his limit? What are the questions that you are most interested in getting answers to when it comes to their marriage and how they move forward?

SALDAÑA: I’m not saying that I influenced this move from Neal because Taylor ultimately makes his own choices, and I do believe that it’s not even up to Taylor. I think that these characters dictate where they’re going, and Taylor just has to make sure that he never gets in their way. If you are a good writer and you’re a great storyteller, you don’t manipulate the story. You just have to follow the natural course of what these characters would take. Put yourself in Neal’s shoes. There’s only so much he can do to support his wife and his partner.

If the violence and the darkness of her world comes knocking at their doorstep and it threatens the lives of his family, it’s funny that we say what makes a marriage work is because a wife chooses the kids and the husband chooses the wife, and that’s how you get a harmonizing family. Well, I love the fact that this Neal character broke that and he’s choosing the safety and the security of his life and his children, and he no longer can put Joe first. That has to rock Joe. As long as he’s her lighthouse, she’s going to continue to chip away at her own life and then inherently at his life with her because he’s always going to be there.

After she gets rescued, she avoids going home. But when she gets home and the house is empty, she can no longer avoid that reality. She can’t avoid that she was kidnapped because she’s missing a toe as proof of that. And obviously she has to have a conversation about her future with Kaitlyn at some point, even if she wants to avoid doing so right now. Who is Joe if she has to work a desk and if she can’t be who she is in this moment?

SALDAÑA: She’s a soldier. This show is not a love song. It’s not a joyful reality. But it does pay homage to the people that innately put themselves last for the sake of other people’s lives. She’s a soldier, and she doesn’t know how not to be that. She’s the same as Kyle. She’s the same as Kaitlyn. She’s the same as Tucker, Two Cubs, Randy, Tag, Bobby, Cruz. She’s a soldier. Did Neal rock her now? Yeah. Now, Neal has her attention.

What was your favorite scene to shoot this season?

SALDAÑA: What I like about this show and Taylor writing it is that, yeah, he is hard to get on the phone, but when he’s in a creative process and you are in that creative process as well, you’re synced in that process. You just have to meet him where he’s at. I love the fact that, as he was writing the episodes, I am so in the trenches in Joe world that sometimes I would have these epiphanies or these insights, and I would text him like, “Oh, this is what’s happening, right?” And he would either respond like, “Yep,” or he’ll call me. Even if I’m on set, I’ll be like, “I need to walk away. I’m going to talk to Taylor right now.” And he’ll help me break something down, or we will further discuss something, or we work something out. He ultimately has the final decision on how things unfold, but I’m so tapped into Joe that I can figure things out while he’s writing them.

There was one time when I was just struggling with a scene. I was like, “I just don’t know. If she’s a soldier and she’s done this and this, and she broke Cruz in Season 1 and sent her through all these camps to survive and become resilient, that means that she’s resilient herself.” And he was like, “Yeah, she’s going to save herself, and her team is going to come meet her in the middle.” The fact that he would say that, I have such appreciation for the fact that he truly values Joe. If he comes across a decision that he’s going to write for Joe that may weaken her character, he will not do it. Yes, her team is looking for her. Praise them for wanting to save her. But Joe is a rock. She’s a soldier. She’s going to find a way to get far enough so that then her team can come and meet her in the middle. I loved that. So, when I figured that out, and he had already written that, it just felt great.

Zoe Saldaña Says Working With the Incredible ‘Lioness’ Women Is the Biggest Gift in Making the Show

“[Taylor Sheridan is] going to write characters that are complex, that are honest, that are human, and then you have to figure out if you like them or not.”

I love that this is a show where not only are you playing this badass, strong woman in a very heavily male world, but you’re doing so with such great women around you. From Joe to Kaitlyn, to Bobby, Cruz, and Josie, there are a lot of strong, smart, and capable women in this world. What is it like to be alongside so many other women through all of this?

SALDAÑA: The biggest gift of all is that I get to be around these incredible women that are talented as fuck and devoted and passionate and opinionated, but also funny and vulnerable and spicy. We’re not being forced to become more masculine because we’re living in these customarily masculine spaces. Take Cruz, for instance. Cruz fell in love. Cruz discovered that she was gay, whilst also receiving the opportunity of her life, when she was asked to be a part of the Lioness program in Season 1. That’s not a masculine role. That’s a woman. This woman is strong and capable and a survivor and a thriver and a heart that’s beating.

Look at Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn has to always practice putting her experience, her wisdom, her ability, her talent to create this program first, over her heart. Nobody is as heartbroken as Kaitlyn when Joe is blown. Nobody. Nobody is as fucking desperate to get her back as Bobby. I feel these women. These women reveal themselves to you if you give yourself the opportunity to watch them, season after season. That’s the good thing about good writing. He’s not going to spoon-feed you all the answers. He’s going to write characters that are complex, that are honest, that are human, and then you have to figure out if you like them or not, but it’s on you.

Lioness is available to stream on Paramount+.​​​​​​

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July 23, 2023

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Paramount+

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John Hillcoat, Anthony Byrne, Paul Cameron, Stephen Kay, Taylor Sheridan

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Editor’s note: The following contains major spoilers for Season 3 of Lioness.

Even as a star and executive producer for the Paramount+ action series Lioness, Academy Award winner Nicole Kidman, who plays CIA Clandestine Service supervisor Kaitlyn Meade, thought that gut-punch Season 3 finale ending was a mic drop moment. After tracking Joe (Zoe Saldaña) down following two kidnapping attempts and finally returning her to what ended up being a home emptied by her husband and their two daughters before leaving, it was revealed to viewers that Aaliyah Amrohi (Stephanie Nur) was the one behind the order. All of this means that there are a lot of questions left unanswered, including whether there will be a Season 4.

Collider recently got the opportunity to chat with Kidman about her reaction to the twist, her hope and desire to keep playing Kaitlyn for another season, her shared passion for horses with show creator Taylor Sheridan, who she revealed is very tight-lipped about story secrets, Kaitlyn’s relationship with her husband, and how all of this could change the dynamic with Joe. She also gave an update on where things are at with Big Little Lies Season 3.

Nicole Kidman Admits She Was Shocked by the ‘Lioness’ Season 3 Finale Reveal

“[Taylor Sheridan] did not tell us.”

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COLLIDER: This season made me so anxious and nervous. When the end of your third season ties back into your first season, some groundwork has clearly been getting laid out for a while.

NICOLE KIDMAN: Isn’t that insane? When we read it, it was a mic drop. It was like, “What?! Taylor, you are brilliant.” He did not tell us. It was just like, “Oh, God, of course, this is how you do it.” But that’s a great writer.

How did you find out that it was Aaliyah that was the one responsible for Joe’s attempted kidnapping? Did you just get the script and find out as you were reading it?

KIDMAN: Yeah. We always go to Taylor and go, “What the hell? Taylor, come on, give us info.” And he’ll drop little hints every now and then, or he’ll text me certain things because I always have a lot of questions. He and I just have a second language where I can text him or call him and within about two minutes he’s given me some groundbreaking understanding of a particular scene, particularly the scenes with my husband. A lot of times, I’m like, “Okay, what’s really going on here,” because those scenes are very complex. But then, he sent through the last episode, the finale, and we were all salivating. And then, it was that and we were like, “What?!” So, if the audience has the same reaction we did as a cast, that’s good.

What ramifications do you think that will have moving forward?

KIDMAN: I honestly have no idea. I’m like, “Okay, what would this do, if we go a Season 4?” I know we’d love to.

Nicole Kidman Is Hoping for Season 4 of ‘Lioness’

“I don’t want to leave it there.”

You can’t leave it where you did and not come back now.

KIDMAN: Then shout that out to him. Taylor, are you listening? No. I don’t want to leave it there. And also, for me, this is just such a great character to play and there’s so much to come, if we get the chance. They’ve only tipped the iceberg of her, you know. Kaitlyn is an incredibly complicated, extraordinary leader, and she’s a leader. It’s fantastic playing the boss. She’s the most strategic, brilliant strategist, in terms of containing emotion, looking at the consequences, seeing 10 steps ahead, and being able to handle every part of her own conscience, psyche, moral code and always put what she’s pledged, which is allegiance to her nation, first. She will not waver.

I think that’s why people come up to me and they go, “She’s so badass.” She sits there and she’s the coolest customer in the room, besides Morgan [Freeman]. Morgan gets stressed, though. Kaitlyn doesn’t. She’s been trained military-wise because she was a lioness, and she has a military brain. She’s wired in a particular way now. It’s so fascinating. I think it’s an extraordinary way to lead. You don’t see women like that a lot on TV. A lot of times, they break down, crying and cracking. That’s not Kaitlyn. She just doesn’t. She’s not capable of it.

When you work with Taylor Sheridan, does he say things to you like, “Oh, we’ll get to that next season,” or is he extremely tight-lipped and never talks about what could be coming next for the show and your character?

KIDMAN: He holds his cards close to his chest. I know him very well, so I can get little tidbits from him. He’s also just fun to hang out with. He and I share a passion for horses, so we have a whole different sidebar relationship. I have a farm, a ranch, and he has a vast one. We have a whole different way to relate, besides the show, which is great. I love land and I love horses and I love riding.

I would be interested in watching episodes dedicated just to what Kaitlyn’s life with her husband is like when we don’t see them because there’s always so much tension going on every time there’s a scene with them. It just feels like there is so much to their relationship that we don’t see and don’t know. What do you think their relationship is like when we don’t see them?

KIDMAN: It’s deeply loyal and committed, strangely enough. It’s not based on sex. It’s based on a love of each other’s minds and a massive amount of protection of each other, and respect and admiration and care. They spar, and they help each other. It’s a fascinating marriage. It’s a different form, I feel, of a love that is still a very warranted union. You see her in the second season when he talks about his prostate cancer. They’ve been through things together. They’ve both been through an enormous amount together. I think that’s why people would like to see that.

They’re workaholics, both of them. There’s an agreement there, but there’s an enormous amount of protection and loyalty to each other too, which I think you see. Half the time, people go, “What are they talking about?” That’s why I have to call Taylor and go, “What?” Martin [Donovan] and I have worked together. We vibrate very differently because Martin and I did Portrait of a Lady together, with Jane Campion, so we knew each other when we were young. We’ve known each other for decades now. It’s brilliant to be able to use that from when we were young. We have that basis and that foundation.

That’s amazing, especially when you don’t have time to establish that. It makes your history so much more valuable.

KIDMAN: We’re unbelievably comfortable with each other and we have this innate sense of each other. When you’ve known someone for decades, and you’ve known them when they were really, really young, you don’t have to work for that relationship. It’s just there. And I implicitly trust Martin. He’s a brilliantly good actor. When he was first cast, Taylor was in awe of Martin. He loves his acting.

Nicole Kidman Says That Kaitlyn Is Aware of the Cracks in Joe After the Events of ‘Lioness’ Season 3

“She’s aware of the vulnerabilities. She’s aware of the breaking point.”

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Joe has never experienced something like what she’s gone through this season. It feels like Joe hasn’t even dealt with anything yet, and I don’t know if Kaitlyn even knows how much it’s all going to affect her. How do you think all of that will change the relationship between Joe and Kaitlyn in another season?

KIDMAN: She’s collecting data. Kaitlyn is watching. She knows Joe’s family. She knows her intrinsically. Kaitlyn is a brilliant instinctual reader of people. It’s how she’s been trained. Kaitlyn does know. She’s aware of the cracks. She’s aware of the vulnerabilities. She’s aware of the breaking point. But Joe is so valuable to her and to the team, so you have extraordinary conflict, in terms of the character. That’s what makes it exciting. She has deep care for Joe. How she shows it is not the typical way of, “Oh, let me hug you.” She’s not tactile. That’s not her. Can she care for her by strategically protecting her and saving her life? Absolutely. She goes, “But you’ve also committed to this higher form of protection of a country and of service, and I have to hold you accountable to that.” It’s a really, really, really difficult relationship for both of them, but they have unbelievable care and admiration for each other, and protection. It’s Lioness.

I love this show, but I especially love all the incredible women in the show. That starts with you and Zoe Saldaña at the center of it, but Bobby, Cruz, and Josie are also very interesting characters.

KIDMAN: Yeah, they’re great women. These women are really formidable, wonderful women. Because we’ve gotten to spend so much time over the course of making three seasons, there’s an ease, there’s an understanding, and there is that lioness protection of each other.

Nicole Kidman Says That ‘Big Little Lies’ Season 3 Is Heading Towards Becoming a Reality

“Reese [Witherspoon] and I live next door to each other, so that helps.”

You have so many great projects with so many great characters that you are playing. You’ve played a lot of memorable characters in your career, but you’ve recently played some great characters across a number of different TV series. Do you know what you’re going to shoot next, especially while you’re waiting to find out about whether you’ll get to do a Season 4 of Lioness? Is a Season 3 of Big Little Lies coming sometime soon?

KIDMAN: Reese [Witherspoon] and I live next door to each other, so that helps Season 3 of Big Little Lies and the way it’s being formed. That’s heading towards the actual shooting date. We’ve set it. At the same time, I see myself as a repertory actor, in a way. When you do repertory theater, a lot of times, you’re doing two shows at once. I’m not doing two shows at once, but in terms of rep theater, which is how I initially started working, you would do a Shakespeare play and then you’d do Ibsen. Actors who are trained theatrically and also who love the art form of acting, that’s what we do. We’re in rep. If you have the opportunity, it’s an extraordinary opportunity to have.

In terms of film and television, if I didn’t have these opportunities, would I be doing rep theater? Probably. Will I do it? Probably. It’s what makes it so exciting. I have no interest in playing myself, over and over again. It’s not how I was formed, initially, as an actor. I was always taught to look for everything that is different, new, and exciting. That’s why my taste is so diverse, and there is nothing too big or too small. We’re working actors. That’s what we do.

Lioness is available to stream on Paramount+.

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July 23, 2023

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John Hillcoat, Anthony Byrne, Paul Cameron, Stephen Kay, Taylor Sheridan

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  Laysla De Oliveira

  Cruz Manuelos

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