“It’s the boats, the immigrants, every conversation I’m having with everybody is about that,” says Brian McKay, speaking in Worsley Mesnes in Wigan.
He’s not the first person in the area to mention the issue – it’s a hot topic in this area, which is part of the Makerfield constituency.
While speaking to voters brings up a raft of local issues that people want sorted out, immigration comes up again and again.
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Brian, who moved to this corner of Makerfield from his native Scotland in 1972, said it is the number one issue which could sway votes in the crunch by-election being held on June 18.
He told the Local Democracy Reporting Service: “If you’re asking who I would vote for, I’ve already done a postal vote, a change is as good as a rest, so I voted for Reform.
“I don’t know if they’re going to be good enough, they’re not tried and tested, but we’ve had a Labour government in, and they’re making a right hash of things, we’ve had a Conservative government in, we’ve had Brexit, no improvement whatsoever, so Reform I voted for.
“I hope I don’t regret it.”
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Immigration isn’t the first thing Brian mentioned. He thinks there are issues with drugs and alcoholism in the area, and feels there has been a loss of local shops. He also points to different ways that he thinks the council could be spending money to fix the roads.
But when asked what the biggest issue which could sway how people vote in the Makerfield by-election, Brian said straight away: “Nobody is doing anything about immigration, they talk about it a lot, but nothing is ever happening.
“I’m sick of hearing ‘we’ll do this, we’ll do that, we’ll do the next thing’, but they’re still coming over and over and over and over.”
He later added: “I’m not racist by any means, but I can see the problem, most people can see the problem, I don’t know why Labour or the Conservatives can’t see the problem, because they’re coming over by the boat load.”
Polls suggest the Makerfield by-election could be close. Labour and Reform UK appear to be both in the running to win the race.
But voters in the constituency keep saying that the election could be decided by what the candidates say about immigration.
Worsley Mesnes Community Centre sits on Clifton Street. A woman is sitting outside in her car, waiting for her partner and son inside.
She doesn’t give her name, but asked about the election, she says: “I’m not very political, I’m not sure how I’ll vote.
“I live on the estate over there, and everyone is talking about immigration and voting Reform.
“I don’t know enough about it to know if that’s right, but it’s what everyone is saying.”
Bob Shearer is parked outside the community centre in Worsley Mesnes after dropping off his daughter.
He lives in Ashton-in-Makerfield, and is planning to vote for Reform UK in the by-election as a protest vote.
Asked about the key local issues, he says: “Rented housing is certainly in shortage, we are building rented houses but who is getting them?
“I’m not going to use the racism word, because it may not be them, but unfortunately there’s not enough houses to rent, especially for single people and young couples, families with children, there’s just the lack of rented accommodation.
“That’s the government who have taken some perks away from the landlords, who need an incentive to buy a house and rent it out.
“Put too many restrictions, like the latest ones, you’re bound to get shortages. There will be no point in being a landlord.”
A short drive down the road families were gathering at the Three Sisters Nature Reserve in Bryn.
The sun was out and children were enjoying the playground as their parents and grandparents watched on.
Julie Ellis, 51, was one of those making the most of the good weather. She’s got three grown up children and six grandchildren.
She said: “I’ve not decided how I’m going to vote yet, I just don’t know. A lot of people are talking about Reform or Labour, but I think you need to know what they are planning to do.
“Someone from The Times came into the salon in Ashton recently and asked us about it, but it can be difficult to talk about politics there.
“People will come to their appointment and talk about things like immigration, it does come up a lot.
“As for the things affecting this area, it’s the cost of living, how difficult everything is. Some of my family are teachers, they’re working every given hour of the day and they still can’t get on the housing ladder.
“It does make you feel angry about it all.”
Sharon Hardman, 56, is also from Ashton and is at the park with her daughter and grandchildren.
She said: “There are families in this area who are struggling. A lot of people rely on places like this because it’s free to go to.
“I would say there are some families who can’t afford to feed their kids in this area, it’s a big problem.”

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